gghbisa wrote:Thanks Justin. This is the first time I ever put images in a book. The 400mb limit is a real pain. I hope the graphics are legible in the ebook format, the paperback editions are a little iffy.
Well, there are so many devices, who knows, but I can zoom in on them so they are usuable.
When were the stars for army lieutenant general changed to all the same size? It's in 1922 regulations but may have been earlier.
My guess is that the stars were officially changed with the new regulations in 1921. However the picture of General Bullard on wikapedia appears to show the stars at the same size. Changes to uniform regulations through May of 1918 show the different size stars.
Yes, I meant 1921 too. AR 600-35 of 14 Oct. 1921 says
"14. Insignia for shoulder loop — Silver stars for general officers will be 1 inch in diameter." That's the earliest I can find.
When was WO/CWO sleeve insignia authorized for army blue mess jacket uniforms post-WW2 (IIRC grade device above gold-brown-gold stripe)?
September 5, 1952. My reference was Colonel Emerson’s Encyclopedia of the United States Army Insignia and Uniforms page 574. His reference is SR 600-32-10 of that date.
Well, I have that book! Thanks!
I read in the book that in 1951 the band/music corps device was used by USN ship’s clerk (bandmaster), before the changes resulting from the 1954 Warrant Officer Act. Is there a citation for that? If so I have some correcting to do.
US Navy Uniform Regulations 1951 page 2-20
In the original 1951 USNUR the corps devices end on p. 2-20 at (v), chief pay clerk and pay clerk. After the 1954 warrant officer legislation, Change 2 of 6 Feb 1956 brought devices for Aviation Operations Technician, Aviation Ordnance Technician, Aviation Maintenance Technician, Aviation Electronics Technician and Building Foreman/Construction Electrician/Equipment Foreman as well as Bandmaster, which ended at (bb). There may have been orders before that date, of course. Original page:

Under 1965 it states that army subdued insignia for warrant officers were black=silver, olive green=gold, and brown=brown. Was that an earlier variation? Because 1968 regs state black=silver, brown=gold, and olive green=brown. I have never seen an actual item in the former scheme, but plenty in the latter.
When I was researching my first book I posted this question on the forum as I was not able to find any other information. Black for silver, olive for gold and brown for brown was the answer I got so that is what I have gone with in my books. If the other system is in regulations than it is probably correct.
AR 670-5 1969 Chapter 15 "Subdued Ornamentation" says
Effective 1 July 1968, "Insignia for all officers are black color with the following exceptions: major and second lieutenant are brown color; warrant officers 1 and 2 are brown with 2 and 3 olive green bands, respectively; warrant officers 3 and 4 are black with 2 and 3 olive green bands, respectively."
This is not within the scope of the book, but: Any idea when the USN band/music officer corps device (gold lyre) was dropped from the regulations in the early 2000s? I have made all sorts of inquiries and haven't been able to get an answer!
I couldn’t find anything either.
That is the last thing I need to put together a timeline of USN corps devices!
Thanks a lot,
Justin