Now, to some suggestions. First, I think that ESA would use the EU blue background-12 golden stars insignia ... perhaps as a circular badge applied to the stylised rocket ...
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:Alternative versions in other colours would equally be pretty easy to put together. The obvious place to start would be a colour-chart that detailed the insignia colours for the various specialist (and sub-specialist) roles. What colours did you have in mind?
Navigation (pilots&navigators) - midnight blue
Engineering - black
Communications - light blue
Administration - purple
Security - medium green
Medical - cherry red
Science - orange
Head administrator and his staff - bright blue
I envisage the following changes:
1. Enlisted Grades: change the centres of the squares but leaving the blue edging. The narrow blue stripes on the cuffs and patches may or may not change, depending on how the finished version looks - or maybe they should only change to specialty colours for the senior enlisted grades with the junior grades retaining the blue stripes...?
How about specialty-coloured squares on a light gray patch, edged with specialty colour?
2. Warrant and Junior Commisioned Grades: The the centres of the squares will change to specialty colours; the Silver or Gold edging to the squares will be retained. Similarly, the central blue stripe of the Silver or Gold cuff-rings will change to specialty colour. On the patches, the blue edge will change to specialty colour for Warrant Grades and there will be a narrow coloured edge inside the gold for Commissioned Grades.
Warrant grades - coloured squares with silver edge on specialty-coloured patch, silver stripes
3. Senior Commissioned Grades: The centres of the squares will change to specialty colours; the Gold edging to the squares will be retained. The gold cuff-rings will remain unchanged but will be outlined with a narrow edge of specialty colour. The patches will have a a narrow coloured edge inside the gold, as for the junior Commissioned Grades.
All Commisioned grades - coloured squares with gold edges on coloured patch with double gold stripes
4. Flag Grades. The basic gold stripes and insignia remain unchanged but the blue background (cuff ring or patches) will change to specialty colour.
Flag grades - gold squares on coloured stripes, twisted gold cord edging
Cap badges for ALL grades will remain unchanged. The breast "wings," however, will be specific to each specialty and sub-specialty role and may incorporate the specialty colours as well as some form of specialty symbol.
Quite right! Also, the navigators would have full wings, the others half wings only (those assigned to ships and space stations the left wing, others the right wing as seen by the wearer, with the head administrator's staff carrying a special device and the head administrator carrying a version of the cap insignia)
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Medic_in_Uniform wrote:Whoa! This is starting to get complicated!
I was trying to keep the overall look of these uniforms fairly sleek, simple and un-cluttered. I'll happily draw some out for you but the belts and the coloured hat-bands are starting to sound a lot like US Army dress blues, if you ask me...!
Or any other armed force Nevertheless, dress unifroms were always a lot more colourful than other dresses.
Equally, I can certainly try the rank on the collars but remember that it will also appear on the German-style shoulder knots; putting it on the collar could appear to be over-kill. I suspect that it will also look pretty silly for the senior ranks that have more than four squares in their insignia (the six squares for the senior Captain rank will likely meet up around the back of his neck!!). It would also confuse the purpose of having the single/double rows of oak-leaves on the dress collar for the senior grades.
Branch-coloured overalls is certainly one idea I'd been playing with although I'm not sure that I'd want to see purple overalls, to be honest (!) but I can certainly see merit in having certain specialist roles like the medics and the security staff being readily identifiable. What I was going to suggest was grey overalls with subtle generic blue (or specialty colour) detailing for most crew members but then reverse that and have, for example, the same design but in cherry red with grey detailing for the duty medical team, etc.
I'll post a few pics when I have time.
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