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Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:30 pm

I've tried to recreate, as close to the actual rank as possible, the rank system currently used by the Armed Forces of the Philippines. These are a mixture of real life ranks and few hypothetical ones.

Here's for the Philippine Navy:

Officer (Sleeve)
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Warrant Officer (Sleeve)
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*The Philippine Navy (and the AFP as a whole) does not have Warrant Officer currently in use.

Enlisted (Sleeve)
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I've used the US and NATO rank codes to try and bring the PN's (and AFP's) enlisted system in line with their US counterpart and sister service in the AFP.

Midshipman [Naval Academy] (Sleeve)
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Midshipman [NROTC] (Sleeve)
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Midshipman Petty Officer [Naval Academy and NROTC]
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Officer Candidate (Sleeve)
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There is currently no Philippine Naval Academy. Officers of the AFP (Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps) are trained in the Philippine Military Academy, OCS and ROTC. Midshipman rank (Hypothetical) system is based heavily on the USNA's and the US NROTC's.

I'll upload the rest as soon as I finish them. :D
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:41 pm

Try working on the shoulder insignia used by PN officers. Flag officers sport 1 to 4 stars in their shoulder boards, all others their sleeve rank rings.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 pm

I'm actually working on those right now. smilies-15
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:43 pm

Updated the sleeve rank insignia of the Philippine Navy. Added the Midshipman Petty Officer insignia in the first post.

Here is the shoulder boards used by the PN.

Officer (Shoulder Board)
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Warrant Officer (Shoulder Board)
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Midshipman [Naval Academy and NROTC] (Shoulder Board)
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Officer Candidate (Shoulder Board)
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Next project will be the metal pin-on insignia.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:58 pm

Hi viroseo9!

Excellent illustrations!
I was at Clark AFB, Philippines in the late-1960's.

When I was there, they had the Philippine Constabulary (which has since been replaced by the National Police.)

It would be interesting if you could do an update of the Philippine Constabulary insignia of rank, (if they still existed into the present day.)

A couple of other interesting things you might try would be a:
(1) Philippine Naval Constabulary
(2) Philippine Coast Guard

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:07 am

You forgot the ''Pilipinas''(''Philippines'') lettering in the shoulder boards of all other officers. All flag officers carry the AFP seal on their shoulder boards in the full dress uniform.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:36 am

Thanks Chuck! smilies-08

I'll try making one for the Constabulary and the Coast Guard. Reference is hard to find for those two but I'll do my best. smilies-15

The shoulder boards worn by the Philippine Navy officers does not bear the Pilipinas (Philippines) lettering (http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/040111_RL-1.jpg).

As for the Admiral's shoulder board, in lieu of the AFP's insignia, it has in its place what appears to be the Philippine Navy Sea lion superimposed on an anchor (http://www.emb.gov.ph/portal/portals/6/Images/gallery/EMB%20Best%20Environmental%20Navy/IMG_3457.JPG).

And because this is Hypothetical, I took some liberties in creating them, though I am also working on the Admiral's shoulder boards to make them resemble their real life counterpart a bit more. smilies-23
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:58 am

Sorry... MY mistake.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Reminder: Philippine Coast Guard officers use the PCG coat of arms on their insignia instead of the star on their sleeve rank rings.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:50 pm

No worries, it's all good. smilies-33
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby ChrisWI » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:20 am

virose09 wrote:Thanks Chuck! smilies-08

I'll try making one for the Constabulary and the Coast Guard. Reference is hard to find for those two but I'll do my best. smilies-15

The shoulder boards worn by the Philippine Navy officers does not bear the Pilipinas (Philippines) lettering (http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/040111_RL-1.jpg).

As for the Admiral's shoulder board, in lieu of the AFP's insignia, it has in its place what appears to be the Philippine Navy Sea lion superimposed on an anchor (http://www.emb.gov.ph/portal/portals/6/Images/gallery/EMB%20Best%20Environmental%20Navy/IMG_3457.JPG).

And because this is Hypothetical, I took some liberties in creating them, though I am also working on the Admiral's shoulder boards to make them resemble their real life counterpart a bit more. smilies-23

I see that the American influence remains very strong in the Philippines. If I ddient know any better I would have thought I was looking at US Navy officers an sailors. And the Marine uniforms are incredibly similar as well.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:39 am

Metal Collar Insignia

Officer
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Warrant Officer
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Enlisted (CPOs)
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*I drew the CPOs' insignia based on the AFP Uniform Regulation description and a few fuzzy photographs. smilies-08

Midshipman (Naval Academy and NROTC
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I'll post the rest of the metal collar insignia as soon as I finished them. I'm still working on the design for the warrant officer insignia.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 am

Hi virose09!

I've had the thought that a good metal, pin-on insignia for warrant officers would be gold triangles, (as the silver ones are used for officers.)

South Korea does something similar, with a gold diamond for their warrant officer rank (and silver for their officers.)

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:40 am

I had the same thoughts about using gold triangles to designated Warrant Officers. But when worn with BDUs, flight suits and other specialty uniform, the ranks insignia are embroidered using black threads. And rank identification would be difficult for officers and warrant officers.

I had the idea of using Anahaw Leaf (Saribus rotundifolius). But then I found out that the Philippine National Police (PNP) uses the leaf along with sampaguita (Jasminum sambac) as a rank insignia to designated their officers.

I wanted to use symbols that are either associated with the Philippines or symbols used by the Filipino during the struggle for independence (ie. symbols used by the Katipunan, by the revolutionary government, revolutionary army, etc.)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:15 am

Hi viroseo9!

Had you also considered doing rank insignia for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front?

I imagine that if they gained independence from the Philippines, they might have rank insignia with a more "Islamic" theme to them.

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:50 am

Hi Chuck,

I might try and do a rank insignia for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, but not as an independent state, more like an insurgent army. I'm not too keen on the idea that they would be independent, pardon my opinion. smilies-08

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:54 am

virose09 wrote:Hi Chuck,

I might try and do a rank insignia for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, but not as an independent state, more like an insurgent army. I'm not too keen on the idea that they would be independent, pardon my opinion. smilies-08

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Hi virose09!

I agree with you!
I don't want to see the Philippines split up either.

This might even be another good category for our Encyclopedia--Insurgent Militaries Rank Insignia.

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:16 am

That sounds great! But researching the ranks insignia for insurgents wouldn't be a cakewalk. And also categorizing 'insurgent militaries'. But I'm all for it! smilies-33
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:06 pm

Still working on a design for the Warrant Officer (metal collar insignia), I went ahead and made the rank insignia for the Philippine Marine Corps.

I'll update this post when I finish the rest.

Officer (Dress Blue)
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Officer (Full Dress Blue)
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Warrant Officer (Dress Blue)
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Warrant Officer (Full Dress Blue)
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Enlisted (Dress Blue)
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Enlisted's rank chevron's color changes depending on the uniform worn by the Marine. (following suite from the US Marines', the only difference is that the Philippine Marines chevrons are red over yellow vice yellow over red of the USMC)

Midshipman (MIDN/Officer Dress Blue [NROTC-Marines])
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Midshipman (MIDN/Officer Full Dress Blue [NROTC-Marines])
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Midshipman (MIDN/Enlisted Dress Blue [NROTC-Marines])
working on this one too

Unlike their counterpart in the US, NROTC (Marines) uses the same uniform worn by the Philippine Marine Corps. Officers of the Philippine Marine Corps are trained, study and wear the same uniform worn by Midshipmen in the Philippine Naval Academy.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:38 pm

Hi viroseo9!

As a USAF veteran, I'm interested in seeing what your Philippine Air Force insignia of rank will look like.

Are you going to have a senior enlisted ranks for the various branches, like Sergeant Major of the Philippine Army, etc.

Your illustrations are excellent!!!

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:27 pm

Remember that Sergeant Majors in the AFP are merely billets or appointments.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:01 pm

Hey guys, yeah I'm thinking of modifying the current rank structure of the AFP (Hypothetical) to indicate the position of Sergeant Major. JMRamos is right, in the (real) AFP, the Sergeant Major is a billet held by only the top-tier enlisted members of the AFP.

I might use the US Air Force's system of adding lozenge and star to indicate positions held by a service member with a rank of E-8 to E-9. So far, the billets include:

1. Sergeant Major of the AFP
2. Sergeant Major of the Philippine Army
3. Sergeant Major of the Philippine Air Force
4. Master Chief Petty Officer of the Philippine Navy
5. Sergeant Major of the Philippine Marine Corps
6. Master Chief Petty Officer of the Philippine Coast Guard
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:06 am

I edited the color of the Philippine Marines' Dress Blue (it was black before) to a dark shade of blue. Still working on the warrant officer insignia, but I'm leaning more and more on something similar to the US Warrant Officer insignia during World War II.

For the meantime, here's Service Dress of the Marines.

Officer
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Officer (Metal Collar Insignia)
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Warrant Officer
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Warrant Officer (Metal Collar Insignia)
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Enlisted
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Enlisted (Khaki Uniform)
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Midshipman (Officer)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:21 am

Minor update. Added the Warrant Officer rank insignia. I settled on a silver triangle with increasing stripes (color of stripe depending on the branch of service) with a "W" to indicate Warrant Officer.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:24 am

Philippine Air Force

Officer (Service Dress)
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Warrant Officer (Service Dress)
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Enlisted (Service Dress)
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AFROTC (Cadet Officer-Service Dress)
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AFROTC (Cadet Enlisted-Service Dress)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby Chuck Anderson » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:19 am

virose09 wrote:Philippine Air Force

Officer (Service Dress)
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Warrant Officer (Service Dress)
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Enlisted (Service Dress)
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AFROTC (Cadet Officer-Service Dress)
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AFROTC (Cadet Enlisted-Service Dress)
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Hi viroseo9!

I really like your Philippine Air Force rank insignia!

When I was in the Philippines I was able to meet quite a few Philippine Air Force personnel at both Clark AFB and Nichols Field.

This was, of course, many years ago, but I seem to remember some of the Philippine Air Force personnel wearing a light gray uniform.

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:09 pm

Great ones. But I hope you remove the lines between the insignia of junior and senior officers.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:25 am

Hey Chuck,

Yeah, I've seen a couple of old photographs with AFP personnel in a gray-ish uniform. Fast-forward a to today, officers who wear light gray service dress uniform belongs to the AFP Technical and Administrative Services (essentially staff corps officers).

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:43 am

Tweaked the Warrant Officer rank insignia a bit. smilies-15

Now, the Philippine Air Force rank insignia in soft shoulder boards.

Officers
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Warrant Officer
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Enlisted
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AFROTC Cadet Officers
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:44 pm

Added a few rank insignia variation for the Philippine Marines (enlisted rank insignia for Service Dress Uniform and Service Khaki Uniform and officer metal collar insignia) and Philippine Air Force (enlisted rank insignia for Class B Uniform). :D

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Another minor update. Added the Full Dress Blue variant for the officers, warrant officers and NROTC Midshipmen.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:43 pm

Rank insignia shoulder boards for use with the Philippine Air Force Mess Uniform.

Officer
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Warrant Officer
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:09 am

Philippine Army

Officers
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Officers (Rayadillo)
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Warrant Officers

Enlisted
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ROTC (Officers)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:55 am

Minor cosmetic adjustments. Went ahead and made the warrant officers' insignia as bronze to distinguish them company grade officers.

PHILIPPINE NAVY (c. Hypothetical)

Officer (Sleeve)
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Warrant Officer (Sleeve)
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Service Dress White
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE NAVY (c. Hypothetical)

Officer (Shoulder Board)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE NAVY (c. Hypothetical)

Officer
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Warrant Officer
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Enlisted (CPOs)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE MARINE CORPS (c. Hypothetical)

Officer (Dress Blue)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE MARINE CORPS (c. Hypothetical)

Officer
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Officer (Metal Collar Insignia)
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Warrant Officer
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Warrant Officer (Metal Collar Insignia)
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Enlisted
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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Philippine Air Force (c. Hypothetical)

Officer (Service Dress)
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Enlisted (Service Dress)
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE AIR FORCE (c. Hypothetical)

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE AIR FORCE (c. Hypothetical)

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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PHILIPPINE ARMY (c. Hypothetical)

Officers
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:52 am

About the PMC: since recently only Master Sergeants and above use the chevrons but with curved rockers just like those used by the USMC.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:54 am

Yeah, I've seen some PHL Marines NCOs wearing the same curved rockers as that of their US counterparts. Since when did they started wearing them and why?

Anyway, for my hypothetical rank isnignia, I opted to keep the straight rockers to keep the "uniformed" look of the different branches.

PS. Anybody here have solid info regarding the PCG's rank insignia? The photos in the net are contradictory with each other. The only solid info I have is for the PCG Auxiliary.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby JMRamos » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:54 am

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This photo from the Philippine Navy FB page from last year's anniversary celebrations of Naval Base Cavite shows a Senior Master Sergeant of the PMC sporting the curved rockers.

Since the yearly US-Philippine joint training exercises began in 2002, there has been an effort by the USMC to help prepare the Philippine Marines for the changing face of battle. As a result of years of joint training drills and participation in military exercises, since 2010-11 there have been senior enlisted personnel that have started wearing the curve rockers, possibly because of recommendations by the Commandant, PMC, to the AFP leadership. Other ranks below do not sport the curve rockers.
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Re: Armed Forces of the Philippines (Hypothetical)

Unread postby virose09 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:29 pm

Thanks for the info. I wonder why the Philippine Army has not adopted the curved rockers or the Philippine Navy mirroring the US Navy's enlisted rates? smilies-15

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