general_tiu wrote:If Quebec gets independent or are independent today, what could its military ranks would look like?
DarthGaddafi wrote:I like Mr. Pasquin's work and certainly he would have a better idea as I have never been to Quebec, but thought I would attempt anyway.
DarthGaddafi wrote:I'm working on a few ideas. Yours are good and I doubt I can top them. Here is an alteration I made to my proposal.
I really do not know much about the history behind the struggle for Independence. I did look at the Wikipedia page for this and noticed that "Quebec" is huge. They can marshal some resources. If it even can to blows and they prevailed they can award the Marshal of Liberty (dignity of the state) rank to the wartime chief.
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:I imagine that the formal uniforms would be dark blue with insignia worn on the cuffs for all grades and fleur-de-lys worn above the distinction stripes. Epaulette-type shoulder straps could also be worn, perhaps carrying regimental insignia for NCOs, with fleur-de-lys / National insignia on the jacket collars.
I also imagine bullion cord chin straps for officers rather than leather straps with or without gold laced facing. I also get a feeling that bullion stripe decoration around the hat bands, to match the cuff stripes (for all officers), would be more appropriate than the use of peak embroidery for senior officers.
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:OK guys, this is just a first pass at what I was describing above. Ignore the cap badges as they are really only intended as place-fillers for appropriate regimental badges. Having said that, I guess the basic concept could work for general officers / senior staff officers; alternatively the generic cap badge approach works well enough for the US with unit and branch affiliation shown elsewhere on the uniform.
Anyway, here are the pics; as ever, I'm open to suggestions...
marcpasquin wrote:one small correction: it should be Maréchal du Québec, not de. "de québec" means "from quebec city".
Who would bear that title anyway ? Honnourary title given to a distinguished retired general ?
In term of colours, I a white top for the peaked cap would look better in my opinon and help distinguish from other organisations.
One last point, the shape of the epaulettes looks too french to me.
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:I did wonder about how things might play out if Quebec became independent or at least devolved with autonomous government but still opted to remain within the Commonwealth
The bigger question much closer to home for the British is what would happen if Scotland votes to leave the union in the upcoming referendum on Scottish independence...?!
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:D'ohh... my French is a little rusty. Close but no cigar, huh....?!
Good question. I honestly don't know. I just figured it looked good and wanted to include it in the overall scheme. I guess I was thinking of the way the Governor-General of Canada has specific separate insignia as Commander-in-Chief, on behalf of the Queen but I'm conscious that any President of a hypothetical Republic of Quebec, may not wish to wear military uniform in the same way.
Maybe something closer to the Governor-General's insignia for a constitutional President would be to use the fleur-de-lys in wreath only and abandon the crossed batons and then have this as a ceremonial uniform for the President as titular C-in-C but without assigning any specific military rank...?
[/quote]One last point, the shape of the epaulettes looks too french to me.
Well, that was kind of the intention — but then these would be separate shoulder boards and worn only for formal dress / parades / evening mess dress and so on.
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:All fair points! I guess to those of us outside Canada and Quebec there probably is a tendency to either over-play or perhaps mis-assign the significance of the historic French cultural connection.
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