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Need help with generic spacebased Armed Merchant Marines!

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Need help with generic spacebased Armed Merchant Marines!

Unread postby lordziba » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:01 am

Hi, need the rank table for generic Armed Merchant Spacy (Marine). And I am looking for basic ranks (not the military!), which could be used from medical to machinist departments!

Maybe this going to help: Sub-story: System X depends on heavy merchant shipping, however, pirates and privateers started to lute the roads. Therefore, with sending the military (since the sector is not that strategic), additionally, the government created an Armed Merchant Spacy Bureau!

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Unread postby Jezz Jamer » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:08 am

E1-Technician Trainee
E2-Technician Apprentice
E3-Technician
E4-Senior Technician
E5-Specialist Third Class
E6-Specialist Second Class
E7-Specialist FIrst Class
E8-Master Specialist
E9-Chief Specialist
CO1-Agent
CO2-Senior Agent
CO3-Special Agent
CO5-Superviser
CO6-Superintendant
CO7-Senior Superintendant
CO8-Commissioner
CO9-Commissioner-General
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Unread postby lordziba » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:12 am

Dah, if this would be normal Police!

I was thinking so far:

M.E.-1: Hand
M.E.-2: Able Hand
M.E.-3: Specialist
M.E.-4: Passed Specialist
M.E.-5: Skilled Specialist
M.E.-6: Boatswain
M.E.-7: Certified Boatswain

M.O.-1: Mate Apprentice
M.O.-2: Passed Mate
M.O.-3: Third Mate
M.O.-4: Second Mate
M.O.-5: First Mate
M.O.-6: Skipper (Captain)

M.D.-1: Assistant Deputy Fleet Director
M.D.-2: Deputy Fleet Director
M.D.-3: Deputy Fleet Director
M.D.-4: Fleet Director
M.D.-5: Director-General an umbrella rank for all departments of Armed Merchant Spacy

I donno, that's what I have in mind, however, the "ground forces" would be looking somwhat like regular police or so.This is a hybride force with right to arrest, seize, and even establish courantine zones, as well to wage full plaged overt operations against pirate hideouts (if anybody seen Exo-Squad, this is sort of more deluted version of Exo Fleet before Second Neosapian War)!

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Unread postby Jezz Jamer » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:45 am

OK, Fine be that way, but try this:

ME1-Spacer Trainee
ME3-Spacer Apprentice
ME4-Ordanery Spacer
ME5-Able Spacer
ME6-Crewman Third Class
ME7-Crewman Second Class
ME8-Crewman First Class
ME9-Master Crewman
ME10-Chief Crewman
ME11-Master Chief Crewman

MO1-Junior Shipsmate
MO2-Shipsmate
MO3-Third Officer
MO4-Second Officer
MO5-First Officer
MO6-Shipmaster
MO7-Senior Shipmaster

MD1-Assistant Fleet Director
MD2-Deputy Fleet Director
MD3-Fleet Director
MD4-Senior Fleet Director
MD5-Chief Fleet Director
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Unread postby P. Morfe » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:22 pm

These are based on the current US fleet:

Deck department:
Unlicensed crew:
Ordinary Crewman
Able Crewman
Boatswain
Licensed officers:
Third Mate
Second Mate
Chief Mate or First Mate
Master

Engineering department:
Unlicensed crew:
Junior Engineer
Licensed officers:
Third Assistant Engineer
Second Assistant Engineer
First Assistant Engineer
Chief Engineer

Miscellaneous:
Purser (responsible for pay)
Pilot (navigation)
Chief Steward (in charge of steward's department, meal)
Chief Cook (in charge of meal preparation)
Steward's Assistant (junior members of steward's department)
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Unread postby lordziba » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:06 pm

That's basically I had in mind, however, two things -- they armed, and I like one tytle fits everything. For instance, instead let's say, Chief Engineer, I'd rather say -- Master of Engineering or Administration, Master of Supercargo and so on. Only department insignia, and maybe piping on uniform would signify difference.

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Unread postby lordziba » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:13 am

Hi, I come out with some provisional drawing of Armed Merchants:

http://a583.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... f0fa86.jpg

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Unread postby Kedyw » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:53 am

The insignia is great, but I have a few suggestions. I currently attend a Maritime Academy, specifically designed for the training of future Merchant Marine officers. We are split into sections when aboard ship and for watch bills. We have a section leader, a variable number of squad leaders, and those holding on specific rank.

Change Shipmate Apprentice to Deck/Engineering Cadet, and Passed Mate to Deck/Engineering Officer. First Mate doesn't exist in the Merchant Marine world, but I guess it would do fine here, considering it is fictional. Chief Mate/Engineer is what we use for certification and so on, but whatever works for you is fine.

Also, because Passed and Certified sound relatively similar, I would recommend changing them.

Specialist - (Unqualified) Specialist
Passed Specialist - Qualified Specialist
Cert. Specialist - Leading Specialist
Boatswain - Department/Section Head

A Boatswain is typically an officer, and normally used by the enlisted side for purely ceremonial purposes, unless that very senior enlisted person is qualified.

But the illustrations can't be beat.
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Unread postby lordziba » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:08 pm

I kind of took new considerations and came out with new drawing:

http://a569.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... e7dd60.jpg

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Unread postby lordziba » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:41 pm

I guess this is last image on this theme, I am back to the Westphalian Empire -- Jagers:

http://a614.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... eb8fb5.jpg

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