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Hi, Again need some help on a Praetorian Guard!

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Hi, Again need some help on a Praetorian Guard!

Unread postby lordziba » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:48 am

Hi guys, again, need to be some assistance on a rank system of the Praetorian Guard! Since it is in a Fictional rank section, it has to do to an Imperial Guard. Some caveat, this is an interstellar Empire, where New Praetorian Guard, the organization doubling as secret service and household troops. However, rank system is not pure Roman, so I need a pure Roman Ranks as base for creation of the Imperial Guard. I was thinking along those lines:

O1. Princeps, O2. Lieutenant, O3. Demi-Centurion O4.Centurion, O5. Tribune O6. Colonel/Captain, O7. Demi-Legates O8. Legates 09. Commander of the Guard.

Thank you ahead, Zibster smilies-01 !
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Some caveat

Unread postby 60bill » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:24 am

What do you want by a Caveat.
Basic law/rules or detailed, civil or military ?
Try looking at Italy [Fascist] circa 1930 for inspiration.
The fascist's used the roman rank system, and a form of roman organization, it did stray from the true historical roman army.
The groups in Vichy France also used a loose Roman system,
I could see the roman system working for some secret group or organization but not for a main stream modern or future military.
There's also a couple of older posts giving roman ranks.
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romans

Unread postby 60bill » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 am

Try this link it gives the roman organisation, some of the info is below.
hope this helps

http://library.thinkquest.org/22866/English/Leger.html

The organisation of the Roman empire

The Roman army consisted of two parts: the legions and the auxiliaries. The Roman Empire had about 28 legions, each containing 4800 men infantry. Besides, every legion had a lot of other people engaged: bakers, trumpeters, doctors id. Auxiliaries often consisted of horsemen, archers and slingers. When a couple of legions started a big campaign, the auxiliaries were brought in too.

The Legion
A legion consisted of a few parts. In sequence from small to large:

The Legion
A legion consisted of a few parts. In sequence from small to large:

Contubernium
Centuria
Cohort
Legion

Contubernium
A contubernium consisted of eight legionarii (pl. of legionarius, soldier). The eight men of a contubernium shared a tent in a camp together. Such a tent wasn't very spacious: about 4 by 3 meters, with a tiny front room. Each contubernium had a mule, to carry the heavy stuff when the army was marching.

Centuria
10 contubernia formed a centuria (80 men) together. Every centuria had his own fieldsigncarrier, a signifer. The leader of such a centuria was the centurio. When you were a good soldier, you could become, via the rank of optio (assistent of a centurio), a centurio. When you were centurio, you were the leader of a low ranked centuria. Sons of senators and other rich persons in Rome became the commander of the high ranked centuria. They became this because they needed military experience for a good political career. The centurio of the highest centuria (the first centuria of the first cohort) was the primipilus. A skilled centurio had also a good chance to become commander of a camp (prefects castrorum).

Contubernium
A contubernium consisted of eight legionarii (pl. of legionarius, soldier).
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