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New York Fire Department Rank insignia

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New York Fire Department Rank insignia

Unread postby sketor7558 » Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:17 pm

Lieutenant: silver bar on collar and 1 silver 1/4 stripe
Captain: insignia same as a U.S Army Captain in silver and 2 1/4 stripes
Battalion Chief: Same as a U.S Army Major and a 1/4 gold stripe
Deputy Chief: Same as a U.S Colonel but in Gold and 1 gold 1/2 stripe
Deputy Assistant Chief: 2 gold stars and 2 gold stripes
Assistant Chief: 3 gold stars and 3 gold stripes
Chief of Operations: 4 Gold stars and 4 gold stripes
Chief of Department: same as U.S. General of the Army but in gold and 5 gold stripes.

The left side is in collars while the right side for black dress uniform sleeve
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Unread postby ChrisWI » Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:23 pm

here are some corrections Sketor pointed out:

- Deputy chief insignia is gold
- Chief of Dept. has a gold insignia the same as General of the Army style with the Pentagon shape
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Unread postby Robb Mavins » Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:35 am

Curious as to why as the FDNY would skip the one star rank insignia ?

My only thought would be that of the Chief’s ranks, the Deputy Assistant Chief and above seem to not be covered by the NY Civil Service exams. I know that Battalion Chief is still a written exam and then a posted list but unsure about above that.
The current Fire Commissioner tried to recently merge the ranks of Battalion Chief and Deputy Chief but was disallowed by the courts.
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Unread postby Herrwiggly » Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:12 pm

Hi everybody herrwiggly here, nice to see the NYFD ranks on the forum hoping to see them listed on the US page. Any possibility? :roll: :roll: :roll: Cheers
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Unread postby Herrwiggly » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:35 pm

Hi everybody herrwiggly here, any chance of getting the NYFD ranks posted? :D :D :D Cheers.
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Unread postby ChrisWI » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:35 pm

Ive sent it to Pavel like 2 times, I think hes trying to work on the sleeve rank insignia
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Unread postby FutureCanadaBlue » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:52 pm

There is actually a one-star rank in the FDNY; it's titled Division Commander, and there are only a handful of them in the department. The city is broken down into eight divisions, and each division is headed by a one-star Commander. I'm not sure what the sleeve insignia would be, but I'm guessing one gold stripe.

Division 1: Manhattan
Division 2: Manhattan
Division 3: Manhattan/Bronx
Division 4: Manhattan/Bronx
Division 5: Queens
Division 6: Brooklyn
Division 7: Brooklyn/Queens
Division 8: Staten Island/Brooklyn
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Unread postby ChrisWI » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:13 am

My uncle is a former FDNY firefighter, he retired about a year ago, ill ask him when I see him on Saturday about FDNY rank insignia and more specifically if theres a 1 star rank called Division Commander
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Unread postby Robb Mavins » Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:07 pm

Hi Chris/FCB/herrwiggly/skeltor

Some comments & questions
    My thought would be that "Division Commander” is a post (i.e. position) and not a rank – “Division Chief” exists in at least in the EMS side and is above Deputy Chief. But no rank table I have seen lists Division Chief in the FDNY currently
However if the previously posted rank table is correct, then there is defiantly a “one star” rank missing as shown here on this page "City wide Tour Commanders" from 2000 http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/publi ... ywide.html you can clearly see Chief Callan is a "one-star" but several others are "two-stars"
On the Division Commanders page there are a couple of "two-stars" and some "one-stars" http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/publi ... ncomm.html - again here “division Commander is a post not a rank.
On the new "Borough Commanders announcement in 2002” several Chiefs hold the of rank Assistant Chief but one is a Deputy Assistant Chief http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/fdny/html/ ... 80702.html

The Five Star Rank ???
There is no US insignia that I have ever scene that has 5 stars in a row ? - I guess I am just wondering why this would be this way? The ones I have seen are almost always in a starburst pattern like this (I made these gold) - Image

And the late Chief Gianci shown here has the starburst pattern as CoD. (it also looks silver) http://www.bravestmemorial.com/html/members_individual/ganci_peter/chiefpganci.jpg
Before his death he is shown here as COD (Chief of Department) with 4 stars http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/publications/md00_p06_chief_of_dept.htmlso maybe there was an insignia change ??
Chief Nigro , the new CoD (Chief of Department) always wore 4 stars as here http://www.members.shaw.ca/marinertech/navy/nigro_daniel_cod.jpg
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    2003 promotions from this site http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/pr/20 ... 3203.shtml is the following statement: Tomorrow Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta will preside over a promotional ceremony for 76 members of both Fire and EMS (67 Fire – 9 EMS) FDNY promotions include Assistant Chief, Deputy Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Battalion Chief, Captain, Lieutenant, Pilot, and Marine Engineer.
    EMS promotions are to Deputy Assistant Chief, Division Chief, Deputy Chief, and Captain. All members will be assigned to divisions throughout the city.
    Here under the 2000 Vacancy Report http://www.ufoa.org/854/12of00.html they list CoD, Assistant Chief, Deputy Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Battalion Chief, Captain, Lieutenant
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Unread postby ChrisWI » Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:34 pm

There is no US insignia that I have ever scene that has 5 stars in a row

Yes there is, Suffolk County NY Sheriff has 5 stars in a row
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Unread postby Robb Mavins » Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:21 am

ChrisWI wrote:
There is no US insignia that I have ever seen that has 5 stars in a row
Yes there is, Suffolk County NY Sheriff has 5 stars in a row

Well ... I did say no insignia that I have ever seen - (Just kidding) Thanks very much for the information - five in a row just seems like too much brass - but ...I stand corrected Thanks
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Unread postby ChrisWI » Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:30 am

Sketor, do you know what was the rank insignia for the New York City EMS until it was merged into the FDNY in 1996?
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Unread postby sketor7558 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:22 pm

I moved FutureCanadaBlue's post from Department of Sanitation to avoid confusion

Firefighter: silver pin that shows their assignment on each side of the collar.
Example: 'L123' for Ladder 123, 'E234' for Engine 234, etc.

Lieutenant:Image

Captain:Image

Battalion Chief:Image

Battalion Commander:Image

Deputy Chief:Image

Division Commander:Image

Deputy Assistant Chief:ImageImage

Assistant Chief:ImageImageImage

Chief of Operations:ImageImageImageImage

Chief of Department:Image
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Unread postby Lt. Bennett » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:01 pm

Can anyone tell me or let me know where I could find a list of unit numbers for FDNY staff chiefs. I don't really need there names, just the title (chief of department, tour commander, SOC, ect.). and the unit number. Thank you.
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