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Robb Mavins wrote:The US Civil Air Patrol is an auxiliary service (Civilian) which is analogous to the civilian US Coast Guard Auxiliary.
I know there was some insignia previously listed but the nice part about this is that it lists both senior and junior member insignia
Civil Air Patrol Rank Insignia
http://www.gruntsmilitary.com/caprank.shtml
It lists:
Cadet Program Basic & NCO Grades
CAP Cadet Officer Grades
CAP Senior Program Transition Grades
CAP Senior Program Grades
For more info on CAP
http://www.cap.gov
Smitty wrote:CAP does have Warrant Ranks, the ranks of FO, TFO, SFO. However these are used for the transitional period for Senior Members aged 18 to 20. This was done to help ease former cadets such as myself into the Senior side of the program. However there are several flaws with this program as it causes quite a bit of confusion.
Flight Officer Smithson, CAP
Former AFJROTC Cadet Colonel
Former CAP Cadet Second Lieutenant
Smitty wrote:CAP does allow personnel who served in paygrades E-4 to E-9 in the US military (active or reserve) to assume that rank after they complete level 1 of the training program. The catch is that they are not recognized by national and are viewed no differently than a SM without grade.
18 year olds are in the adult program but hold Flight Officer ranks. The FO ranks each correspond with a company grade rank.
FO --> 2d Lt
TFO --> 1st Lt
SFO --> Capt
When a member turns 21 their rank becomes one of those 3 if the held an FO rank.
Jefferson 900 wrote:Sarge
No The E-4 to E-9 ranks is recongnized and can be worn to NHQ but grade shows up as SM on the National record just the same as FO, TFO, and SFO
I was a TFO and I am thinking Smitty is a FO if we look at our records it shows as a SM as those grades are not recorded at NHQ. Mine recently changed to 1st Lt.
hhbooker2 wrote: Someone over 40 should never have to be a 2nd Lieutenant, maybe a 1st Lieutenant or a Captain at the least, especially if they have prior military service!
Smitty wrote:hhbooker2 wrote: Someone over 40 should never have to be a 2nd Lieutenant, maybe a 1st Lieutenant or a Captain at the least, especially if they have prior military service!
When I was in AFJROTC my ASI (SNCO Instructor) a retired MSgt who had been a Master Military training instructor decided to join the CAP Squadron by his town to help out the cadet program there. At first they tried to make him a 2d Lt but he turned it down in order to wear his NCO chevrons. Because of theis he was not treated with respect by some members because he wasn't an officer. He left the program after about a year because he was disgusted with how it was run. Many of the people who were disrespectful were CAP 2d Lts and 1st Lts who had never served a day in the service.
Smitty wrote:That they do. There are some members who treat it as if it were a real job and I have seen them attempt to make an active duty NCO salute them.
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