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SINGAPORE New Rank Insignia

Unread postby Luke » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:41 pm

The Singapore Armed Forces are about to introduce a new personell category, military experts, with their own rank insignia and rank titles.

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Military Experts

Military Expert 1 - Assistant Expert
Military Expert 2 - Assistant Expert
Military Expert 3 - Expert
Military Expert 4 - Expert
Military Expert 5 - Senior Expert
Military Expert 6 - Principal Expert
Military Expert 7 - Assistant Chief Expert
Military Expert 8 - Chief Expert

Note: The MDES rank insignias are subjected to the relevant legislation coming into effect.

In the army, the field of expertise seem to be:

Army Engineer
Assistant Army Engineer
Ammunition Engineering
Army Medical Services
Intelligence
Band

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/mde.asp

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef ... Ranks.html
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SINGAPORE Senior Lieutenant Colonel

Unread postby Luke » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:01 pm

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Will be introduced in July 2010.

"In addition, the SAF will introduce a new Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank next year. This new rank will recognise the larger responsibilities and supervisory roles of certain Lieutenant-Colonel appointments in the SAF, for example, the Brigade 2IC appointment."

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_a ... peech.html


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SINGAPORE More about MDES ranks

Unread postby Luke » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:04 pm

New Military Domain Experts Scheme

"First, we will introduce a new military uniformed scheme of service in the SAF, called the Military Domain Experts Scheme. This new scheme will complement the existing Officer and Warrant Officer schemes.

The Military Domain Experts Scheme will allow us to build and retain deep professional expertise and experience in critical military domain areas such as technical, engineering and intelligence. It will allow us to fully develop our current servicemen who are in these lines of work. It will also attract the more technologically savvy polytechnic and degree graduates who want to work with cutting-edge systems and advanced technologies, but are less inclined to join the traditional officer or warrant officer schemes. It will also facilitate mid-career professionals with the relevant expertise to join the SAF.

Personnel who join the new scheme will be known as Military Experts. Military Experts will enjoy a longer career with the SAF on full CPF up to age 60. The longer career will allow them time to develop specialisation and deep expertise as well as the necessary experience on the job required for key military domain areas. They will advance along an eight rank structure - Military Expert 1 to 8, with the pinnacle rank being ME8. ME8 will be equivalent to a Brigadier General in terms of job size. The entry rank for degree holders is ME4. Servicemen who hold the rank of ME4 or above will be known as Senior Military Experts.
Military Experts will be given opportunities to upgrade themselves academically and professionally. They will be offered attractive market-based remuneration. Progression will be based on the individual’s level of professional expertise and the ability to take on higher professional responsibilities in their expertise domains. On the other hand, in the Officer and Warrant Officer Corps, progression depends significantly on command ability.

Our servicemen who are currently in vocations under the military domain areas identified for the Military Domain Experts Scheme will be given the option to convert to the new scheme of service. They will be offered a fair package to transit to the new scheme of service."

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_a ... peech.html
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SINGAPORE New 3rd Warrant Officer Rank

Unread postby Luke » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:20 pm

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"With the creation of the Military Domain Experts Scheme, the Warrant Officer Corps will be leaner and more focused. Their jobs will be re-designed and re-structured to focus on combat leadership roles, and to anchor the key SAF competencies in leadership, tactical warfighting expertise, and training supervision. They will continue to work in support of and in partnership with the Officers.

We will introduce a new 3rd Warrant Officer rank. This will allow those with the potential to reach the warrant officer rank to be promoted to a Warrant Officer rank earlier. Under the enhanced scheme, the best can become a warrant officer as early as the end of their 6th year in service compared to 12 years under the current scheme. This new 3rd Warrant Officer rank will be an important milestone to signal to a serviceman that he has the potential to rise up through the warrant officer ranks and hold greater responsibilities. Those who do not attain the 3WO rank can continue in their jobs until their retirement age, at age 50, as long as they are able to contribute. The retirement age for the Warrant Officers will remain unchanged at age 55."

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SINGAPORE: New Specialist Cadet Rank

Unread postby Luke » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:23 pm

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"With effect from 22 December 2008, all full-time National Servicemen (NSFs) and regulars who are selected to undergo Specialist training will be accorded a new rank - Specialist Cadet (SCT). The new rank will be worn throughout the specialist training phase, which comprises basic and advanced specialist training. The new rank will also replace the Private (PTE) and Corporal (CPL) ranks previously held by specialist trainees."

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_a ... 08_fs.html

Specialist = NCO
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Unread postby lordziba » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:49 pm

Honestly, I am lost... Why in a world they need new structure of so-called "Military Experts," if they can just expend Warrant Officers. For instance, (please correct if I am wrong), the US Warrant Officers just that -- skilled military experts/officers without regular command chain. So, anybody, why the need?

Thank u, Zibster smilies-04 !

PS. In order to get most efficiency, the chain of command should very simple and straight forward, while warrant officers just supplement it!
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Singapore MDES Vocations

Unread postby Luke » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:07 pm

All Engineering and Technical vocations in the Army, RSN and RSAF
All Combat and Combat-Technical vocations in the RSN (less Naval Divers) and selected Combat-Technical vocations in the RSAF
Air Operations System Specialist, Aviation Material Specialist and Aviation Vehicle Specialist vocations in the SAF
Naval Chefs
Bandmaster and Musician vocations in the SAF Band
Selected Intelligence vocations
Nursing Officers and Combat Medic vocations

[My emphasis/Luke]

Source: http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/public ... news2.html
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SINGAPORE MDES relative rank

Unread postby Luke » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:48 pm

ME1 Assistant Expert = 3rd Sergeant
ME2 Assistant Expert = Staff Sergeant
ME3 Expert = 3rd Warrant Officer
ME4 Expert = Lieutenant
ME5 Senior Expert = Major
ME6 Principal Expert = Lieutenant Colonel
ME7 Senior Principal Expert = Colonel
ME8 Chief Expert = Brigadier General

Source: http://hfmy.110mb.com/RanksMilitary.html
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Unread postby general_tiu » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:51 pm

What is even more interesting is there is insignia for the boys and insignia for the babes! smilies-16
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Unread postby LONDON » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:38 pm

lordziba wrote:Honestly, I am lost... Why in a world they need new structure of so-called "Military Experts," if they can just expend Warrant Officers. For instance, (please correct if I am wrong), the US Warrant Officers just that -- skilled military experts/officers without regular command chain. So, anybody, why the need?

Thank u, Zibster smilies-04 !

PS. In order to get most efficiency, the chain of command should very simple and straight forward, while warrant officers just supplement it!


Singapore Warrant Officers are equivalent to US E8 and E9, not US WOs.

The new scheme parallels the current NCO and Officer Ranks - ME1 - ME3 are NCO equivalents by US Army standards, ME4 and upwards, officer equivalents (ME4 and upwards appointed by the President)

http://www.parliament.gov.sg/Publications/090021.pdf
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Ranks of Servicemen

Unread postby Erwin » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:15 am

According to the Singapore Government Gazette (First Published on 30th March 2010) No. S187/2010, the ranks of Servicemen in the Uniformed Service of the Singapore Armed Forces are as follows:

1. General / Admiral
2. Lieutenant-General / Vice Admiral
3. Major-General / Rear Admiral (Two-Star)
4. Brigadier-General / Rear Admiral (One-Star) / ME8 (Military Expert 8)
5. Colonel / ME7 (Military Expert 7)
6. Senior Lieutenant-Colonel
7. Lieutenant-Colonel / ME6 (Military Expert 6)
8. Major / ME5 (Military Expert 5)
9. Captain / ME4 (Military Expert 4)
10. Lieutenant
11. Second Lieutenant
12. Senior Warrant Officer
13. Master Warrant Officer
14. First Warrant Officer / ME3 (Military Expert 3)
15. Second Warrant Officer
16. Third Warrant Officer
17. Master Sergeant / ME2 (Military Expert 2)
18. Staff Sergeant
19. First Sergeant
20. Second Sergeant / ME1 (Military Expert 1)
21. Third Sergeant
22. Corporal (First Class)
23. Corporal
24. Lance-Corporal
25. Private (First Class)
26. Private
27. Recruit.
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Unread postby lordziba » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:06 pm

Hi guys, I just notice the rank of Senior Lieutenant-Colonel, what is function this rank?

Thanx in advance, Zibster smilies-01 !
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* Senior LTC

Unread postby Luke » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:07 am

"In addition, the SAF will introduce a new Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank next year. This new rank will recognise the larger responsibilities and supervisory roles of certain Lieutenant-Colonel appointments in the SAF, for example, the Brigade 2IC appointment."

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Unread postby lordziba » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:39 pm

Thank you very much, I am always into odd ranks such as Senior Captain or Major, or Colonel-Commandant!

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Unread postby Erwin » Tue May 25, 2010 6:34 pm

lordziba wrote:Thank you very much, I am always into odd ranks such as Senior Captain or Major, or Colonel-Commandant!

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Well there are pragmatic reasons for the additional ranks.

Even thought there's the General/Admiral rank in the regulations, but in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) there is so far no 4 star rank.

The highest ranking officer we have so far is a 3 star Lieutenant-General who holds the appointment of Chief of Defence Force (all were from the Army except for one from the Air Force), down the echelon there are only three 2 star Generals (Chief of Army, Chief of Navy & Chief of Air Force) & a handful of 1 star Generals (10 or so).

So as you can see, general officers are an extremely rare breed of officers in the SAF.

Recently the SAF increased retirement age for officers, warrant officers & specialist (formerly known as NCO).

With the increment of retirement age, personnel need more movement and visible recognition within the organisation, therefore the additional substansive ranks of Senior Lieutenant-Colonel & Third Warrant Officer.
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Unread postby lordziba » Tue May 25, 2010 9:00 pm

I see. So, in Singapore everything comes down to money? Sort of like old British Brigadier General was replaced just by Brigadier or Colonel-Commandant. Where those ranks were paid as regular colonel but a lot more responsibility?

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Unread postby Erwin » Wed May 26, 2010 5:27 pm

lordziba wrote:I see. So, in Singapore everything comes down to money? Sort of like old British Brigadier General was replaced just by Brigadier or Colonel-Commandant. Where those ranks were paid as regular colonel but a lot more responsibility?

Thanx, Zibster, smilies-26 !


Money? I wouldn't deny it, but I would say it's part of the reason, anyway it's not unique in Singapore, various forces around the world have money issues; cut in defence budget etc. It's not even unique in the military, other sectors (education, medical etc.) face it as well.

We have a small population (4 to 5 million), so the organisation need to fight for good manpower from various sectors, additional ranks would spell faster promotions. This would appeal better to potential recruits, eg. it used to take around 10 years to reach warrant officer rank, with the new echelon now it's around 6 or 7 years, that's only possible with better educated population whereby they can learn new technology faster than their fathers or grandfathers.

Of course soldiering skills is a must even with better weaponaries.

I agree from various points of view it's not perfect solution (I'm still serving in the reserves, but never came across my mind to make the military as my professional career), at least it's maximising the limited resouces on hand. Maybe forces with deeper traditions would disagree with the way we are now, but like I've mentioned it's been pragmatic, defence to us is an issue of sovereign protection.

By the way nice to see you're interested in this issue
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