J.T. Broderick wrote:A couple of things I found interesting, and wondered if anyone had any ideas.
First is a 1971 Wikipedia photo of Rear Admiral David Scott RN when he was serving in Washington DC. He is wearing a khaki (US khaki, anyway) coat which appears to have RN shoulder board fitted over existing shoulder loops.
What is interesting are the metal collar insignia.
They appear to be something like this:
Reading the 1966 RN Dress regulations on the terrific site Royal Marines Badges and Insignia Reference, "Gilt metal collar badges representing in miniature the distinction marks of rank and branch may be worn, optionally, on the khaki shirt by officers appointed for duty which necessitates their wearing khaki uniform in the presence of United States ofﬁcers."
Does anyone know of any photos with these being worn, or of the devices themselves?
jrichardn2 wrote:I can confirm that RCN officers wore little metal collar badges showing stripes and curl - the helicopter pilot at an event I went to as a pre-teen wore them.
J.T. Broderick wrote:Second is a 2014 photo of First Sea Lord Zambellas on a trip to the US. He is wearing a white tunic, no longer a standard item in the RN, with "working" shoulder boards.
J.T. Broderick wrote:The commodore accompanying him has the "dress" boards. This looks odd, any ideas?
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:The tunic remains an option for certain appointments (or, indeed, a requirement for certain occasions).
Medic_in_Uniform wrote:Someone didn't get the memo!
Or someone forgot to pack 1SL's ceremonial boards...
Given the nature of an event that has the Boss and his staff all in white tunics, one would have assumed that the bling boards would have been expected!
Oh, and for SFMRAS, the RN Commodore rank still maintains the broad lace cuff ring with the separate loop above (in place of the curl on a standard lace ring) as the standard marking of rank (and the same is worn on working dress shoulder slides and hard shoulder boards). The authorisation to use the "single-star" ceremonial boards did not come at the same time as the increase in the number of stars on the ceremonial boards for Adm / V-Adm / R. Adm. If I recall correctly, there was a delay of several years before the *old* R. Adm one-star boards officially appeared in the regs for Commodores.
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