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EUROPE - LAW ENFORCEMENT BRANCH & RANK INSIGNIA

NEW RANKS FOR ICELANDIC COAST GUARD

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NEW RANKS FOR ICELANDIC COAST GUARD

Unread postby kaldi » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:14 pm

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I was just gettyng e:mail fro one of the senior officers of the ICG where he was informing me of the fact that thera possibly coming four new senior NCO insignias so that the ICG will have simular rank system like most other Coast Guards in Europe.

Now people from other coast guard organisations around the world are allways surpriced when coming to wisit the ICG´s hangar at Reykjavik airport becouse the staff there all have officers insignia, and cooks on theyr wessels has officers insignia.

Today there are 130 persons working alltime for the ICG and 60 of them are senior officers, some like the cook is only officer over himself.
That is a reason for adding more rank insignia to the ICG.

This is what i have yet from commander Asgrimsson from the ICG.
More later.
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Unread postby Luke » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:31 pm

Foreign officers must be equally surprised if they visit a Norwegian or Swedish navy base, and soon a Finnish one, too, since the Scandinavian countries have a very compact rank system.

I don't believe that Icelanders are so susceptible to peer pressure that you have to reduce the rank of cooks, just to look good in the eyes of non-Scandinavians.
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Unread postby Peter » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:48 pm

Luke wrote:Foreign officers must be equally surprised if they visit a Norwegian or Swedish navy base, and soon a Finnish one, too, since the Scandinavian countries have a very compact rank system.

I don't believe that Icelanders are so susceptible to peer pressure that you have to reduce the rank of cooks, just to look good in the eyes of non-Scandinavians.
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The most suprising of all in my eyes is Luxemburg. They have less than 1000 soldiers but have 4 Private and 4 Corporal ranks. Also Iceland has a lot of ranks for its small Police Force and now the Coast Guard is joining too. In Belgium we have only 9 Police ranks, including student ranks, from the lowest Auxiliairy Police Officer till the highest Commissar. But in the military context, Belgium is also a "multiple rank runner" (MRR= maybe a new way of naming things). Belgium reduced its military force from 100 000 till less than 40 000, but they introduced 5 ranks, including 4-Star General. In WOII we had 600 000 troops in the field but the highest rank was 3-Star General. The rankstructure of the Norwegian Army I like the most. They have only 4-5 troop and NCO ranks. I am still woundering how the run things with so few ranks.
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Unread postby Luke » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:39 pm

Peter:

This is the connection between rank and position for the lower ranks in the Norwegian army:

Korporal = 1) Conscripted Sergeant Candidate acting as Squad Leader
2) Officer Candidate 3) Private appointed acting corporal.

Sersjant = 1) Conscripted Squad Leader 2) Officer Candidate

Fenrik = Assistant Platoon Leader, Platoon Leader

Lřytnant = Platoon Leader, Assistant Company Commander, Administrative Officer

In Norwegian the correct inclusive term for all ranks from and including Sersjant to General is Befal. The meaning of the word is someone who commands.
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Unread postby kaldi » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:07 pm

well acctually this is what i have been told.
Mostly we have visitors from the US. and Denmark but i dont know how they are in this ranking system for theyr staff but i dont think they have so many persons in the higher levels only in charge of them selfs and it is not only the cook that is in this position of being degraded.
as commander Asgrimsson says the this is very complicated matter and it could take months before everyone will be satisfied.
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Unread postby kaldi » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:14 pm

peter wrote (In Belgium we have only 9 Police ranks,)

after changes in the ranks of the Icelandic police then it is only going to have 9 ranks (coming to act now 2005 one rank goes out forever in 2007) meaning that it is gonna be same as in Belgium.

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My father was the last person serving holding this rank of deputy inspector in this part of Iceland and there are more going out the last one in the year 2007
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